I am so happy for you. I couldn't imagine being separated from my brothers over a belief system. I always like to think that there is a glimmer of hope that my mother will one day see the light...but sadly I have my doubts.
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You could have knocked me over with a feather I was so shocked!!!
by Bumble Bee inok, i met my brother today.
he drove me to my eye appt out of town.
we rarely get time together alone (no spouses/kids etc).
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I Feel so alone
by aussie inhi everyone, well im totally new at this but i thought i would give it a go anyway.so here is my story(short version).
well i have been with my boyfriend for 2yrs now and the last 4months he has started to get back into witnessing.
i have said from day one that i dont want to be one, but i did attend a meeting, memorial and some studys i did this for him to see what it was all about.
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Welcome Aussie,
Sorry that you feel so down and alone. The above posters know what they are talking about. Some may be bitter but I think they have plenty of reasons, especially if they aren't allowed to communicate with their family members simply because they have chosen a different path.
I have never been one but my parents became witnesses a few years before the 1975 fiasco; that the world was going to end that year. I did question this organization to see if they really were the truth and from all the info I have gathered in the last 10 years or so I have found out they are very far from the truth.
I think it would be a big mistake to pursue this relationship if your boyfriend is intent on going back to this org. He does have the right to choose that path. I think your heartache would be much much greater if you were to stay with him under the circumstances, especially if children were involved.
I think Jgnat is married to a witness. Maybe she could give you advice if you still want to pursue this relationship.
Anyone who has fallen in love can relate and empathize with your dilemma. It's very painful. Hope all goes well for you.
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How do you see the world heading if all religion was eliminated?
by Guest with Questions inmany, like dawkins, think that religion is the root of all evil.
hypothetically, if all religion was eliminated and all people stopped believing how would you see the world in a few years?
with atheism on the rise do you think that society will improve or deteriorate?.
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It is religion, greed, and just plain stupidity that has been behind all of mankind's wars.
AlanF - First I do agree that greed and stupidity are a couple of reasons for war. You accuse someone else for being ignorant, not factual, and yet you make such a blanket statement, that to my mind, is just as ignorant. Religion is not behind all of mankind’s wars; people are behind mankind’s wars. Yes, some may well have been "religious" people, but to blame all religions is, to my mind, very untrue. I think it’s a lot more complicated than that. I think a lot of things lead up to war. Possibly a few orchestrate it but the masses still have to be in agreement.
Hitler may well have been Catholic but he, and many of his co-horts dabbled in the occult, so when you state that all religions started wars, do you include Satanism? Europe ( especially Germany and France?) was becoming morally very deviant, especially sexually prior to WW2; there was a lot of anxiety, people didn’t seem to know what to hang on to anymore. Is it possible that in the beginning Hitler in his own warped mind may have wanted to clean up immorality-but ending up with an even more deviant immorality?
Economics and greed had a lot to do with it. There has always been a few, whether religious or political, that have tried to rule or control the masses and for the most part the masses have accepted it. Could it be that these few use religion as a reason or excuse but that in truth it was for their own gain? Could it be a lust for power and acquisitions of money, land, natural resources etc. War is very lucrative. A few become even more wealthy and the poor...well, they will fight another war when the rich require them to do so; a dime a dozen people.
I realize that there are conspiracies, Illuminate, Thule Society or whatever, that may be behind wars; that they want to dominate the world. Could the possibility exist of a "New World Order?"; a one world government. I truly don’t know if this is true. Part of me thinks it’s very paranoid, but then again it could be true.
If you were to stretch the imagination could Europe possibly be heading for trouble down the road; that as a whole it is becoming morally bankrupt? With all the talk of Europeans becoming more secular, more enlightened? more intellectual? healthier? etc you would think that they had found paradise. Having all my extended family there I personally don't see it, but maybe I'm the one that is ignorant. What I see (in the Netherlands) is open sexual immorality (go to Amsterdam's red light district), abortion, out of control drug abuse (were the people more enlightened when they openly allowed drug use), euthenasia, a growing Muslim population; possibly wanting to dominate the world? This is not to ignore the fact that North America has a much bigger problem with drugs and abortion, but like Europe we are becoming more secular. Just don't give me the fantasy that all is well in Europe.
It is exactly this sort of ignorant nonsense that illustrates why religiously inspired ignorance ought to be stamped out.
How would one go about stamping out religiously inspired ignorance? Education? Science, Politics is the answer to all our problems? Maybe I should include consumerism (maybe that's the opium of the masses(who can afford it) of today) - you know how we all want stuff! People will gradually discard religion as they become more enlightened? I don’t believe that will ever happen so then the only other alternative to eliminate religion is to eliminate the people who profess faith in anything other than science or politicians. I am not knocking science but when you begin to worship science; that it is the saviour of the world, that's what I have a problem with.
In the end the above is my opinion. If I'm wrong about anything I will admit it. I realize that sometimes we can come across as arrogant and angry and I hope that I haven't come across that way; that is not my intent. Maybe I am a bit cranky: 3wks of tooth pain could do it for anybody. No I am not ignoring my tooth-getting root canal done tomorrow.
A few quotes to make us wonder (about world domination by an elite group): the first is an applicable quote and have included it even though I totally disagree with his philosophy. I imagine that in his mind it's a Jewish conspiracy; they want control of the world; or is it Zionists? Okay, I realize that the fourth quote doesn't have anything to do with New World Order. I realize too that it is quote by one sick individual and doesn't necessarily typify beliefs of all atheists.
Victor E. Marsden: the world is gradually moving towards a One World Government, controlled by an irreproachable hidden hand. In The Protocols, we are given clear insights as to why so many incomprehensible political decisions are made in both local, national and international politics, which seem to continually work against the favour of the masses and in favour of the vested interests of the banking/industrial cartel -- the global power elite.
David Edwards shows how the propaganda system distorts our understanding of political, personal and spiritual issues, ensuring that we remain passive, conformist, confused and uninformed - and willing to accept the irrational values of corporate consumerism. He argues that we need to master the arts of "intellectual self-defence", in order to become able to challenge the "necessary illusions" of a system that subordinates people and planet to the drive for profit.
Winston Churchill is an interesting individual, as he later came to the conclusion that there was indeed a master conspiracy at work in the major events of the world, when he wrote the following in 1920: "From the days of Spartacus——Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky (Russia)... this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization... has been steadily growing."
Berhardi, a general retired from the German General Staff, made a number of social darwinist arguments about the necessity and benefits of war; war was a very important element of natural selection weeding out the weak and unfit and keeping nations and ‘‘races’’ virile and vigorous.
a new scale of national state——‘‘world power’’——was going to emerge in the 20th C had been around for some time; Alexis de Tocqueville had forecast this in the 1840s and Seeley had done so in the 1880s.
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MOUTHY NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS AND/OR SUPPORT
by Mary inour dear mouthy is really having a tough time right now and needs our support and/or prayers.
as some of you may know, she's already lost 3 of her children in death and the other one to the borg.
in the last couple of days, she's had to worry about her 2 year old great-granddaughter being in the hospital with an illness and yesterday, her daughter had a suspicious mole removed from her back and was told there is a lump in her breast which has to be biopsied.
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Dear Grace,
My thoughts and prayers are with you. Love GwQ
Don't know if the file attachment worked but just in case: from my house to your house.
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Prayer on a Dare
by jgnat inmy prayers are on a roll lately, and i believe god wouldn't be too upset if i laid out my request list, as a special favor for an athiest friend of mine.
i have reason to be confident, beyond the regular faith thing.
i've had some important prayers answered lately.
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I have prayed for two people on this site. I will include Blondie in my prayers.
I'm so glad for you, your family and your son. It's the worst feeling when your child struggles.
I have prayed so long for my son who is struggling. He's smoking pot so it doesn't help his depression or his lack of motivation. But I am thankful that he's been working and for the past month it's been full time. He is on time and doesn't miss any days. That's quite an accomplishment considering that he wouldn't work at first.
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6 Years on JWD today
by blondie inhave i stayed too long at the fair.
there are many names and faces that i don't see much any more.
my own style of posting has changed due to my limitations.. welcome to the new ones and stop by some of you we are missing if you can.. blondie.
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Congratulations Blondie!
All the responses is proof how everyone feels about you. You always come across as a classy lady. Hoping your health improves.
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I'M CONFUSED
by nvrgnbk ini've got my issues like everybody else.
good days and bad days.
ups and downs.. but there is something i can't relate to and simply will never understand.. that is:.
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Yesterday I considered asking the same question. I can't comment on some posts because I didn't read all the threads. I do have a problem with one and I don't try to open his up. A couple of times I have and regretted it. On some level I agree with some of the stuff he has posted but he comes across as a pompous, arrogant, and "I'm more intellectual than you", can you grasp what I mean. What offends or triggers you may not offend me and vise versa. Some here I totally disagree with but they aren't condescending or disrespectful and that is what a debate should be. I'm the same on this board as I truly am, though at times I have wanted to be sarcastic but fought the urge because it wasn't worth it to me. If someone wants to be rude and ignorant it's not my problem but theirs.
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OK, so let's test the Creationism advocates out here.............
by 5go ini responce to this post .
i'll start it off, then someone else give them a different challenge if you can think of any.. please give definitive examples that by evolution, a species has changed into something else.
give two separate findings by scientists, and it can't include any comments like "so we believe", "so we conclude that", or "the evidence shows that there could have been".....the wts has those copyrighted.. try and give un-doctored photographic proof, where possible, etc.
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I could say, show me a picture of love and I will show you a picture of God.. I’m not asking for a representation of (say a picture of a mother & child) or an effect of love but can you show me a picture of the feeling of love, of empathy, of your thoughts, can you contain them, put them in a box. Because we can’t get pictures of these feelings does that make them less real.
Sound waves can show we are thinking but doesn’t show what we are actually thinking. The voice could transmit what we are thinking or feeling, the written word could communicate our thoughts, heart rates could show our response to feelings but can’t show what we are truly thinking or feeling. Our actions may or may not communicate our true feelings. We may be able to understand chemically why we behave a certain way; it still doesn’t show the actual thought or feeling.
We have never seen God but we have seen the effects of God. Yes, you can see it in nature, in people. Because you may not have experienced God personally doesn’t take away from the experiences of others who have.
Does the evolutionary process (or whatever you want to call it) care that we are happy, that we have compassion, love and does the process even care that we survive? Why should it? How did a non feeling process transfer emotion to mankind?
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!!Happy Birthday badboy!!
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Seeing someone else in greater pain than myself puts things in perspective?
by Guest with Questions infor the past 19 days i've been suffering with tooth pain.
i had it crowned but it got infected.
i was put on pennicilin.
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For the past 19 days I've been suffering with tooth pain. I had it crowned but it got infected. I was put on pennicilin. The dentist finally drilled a hole in the tooth two days ago and started a root canal that will be finished next week. The pain was at times very difficult to deal with. On top of that I had an alergic reaction to the pennicilin and developed a pretty bad rash. While sitting in the dentists chair waiting my turn there was breaking news, a 15 year old boy was shot to death in a high school in Toronto. My heart goes out to this mother and his family. My pain is so minor. It will go away but this mothers pain will never go away. She will not see him grow up to be a man; she will never experience being a grandparent through him. It really puts things in perspective for me.